Under No Illusion

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  Special meeting next month (February 2020)

  by Jofi_Wofo in

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  2. friends

  it was announced today that we will have a special weekend meeting next month.

  it will be 3 hours long and will include some streamed content.. no explanation was given as to what the meeting will be about, only that it will be exciting and we will not want to miss it..

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  Might be about the release of the new ArmageddonApp for your phone.

  Makes a ticking noise in your pocket with a subliminal chant of "Donate, donate, donate!"

  If you dont use your CC within 24 hours you get hit by lightning.
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  Doctor Who: Massive Slump in UK Viewing Figures

  by snugglebunny in

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  2. friends

  could this be because - *gasp* - because this whole transgender scene is a big turn off?.

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  Didn't know she was transgender. I thought she was female.

  My mum sees a female doctor, so I don't find it unusual. :)

  Haven't watched it much since Tom Baker/Pete Davison era, but Billie Piper was yum.
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  The end is so close now....

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  aren't they tiring out from saying this now?.

  a jobo pimi-lite i know has a terminal illness (no names, no pack drill), was told, 'hold on, the end is so close.

  the pimi-lite said they will need to hold on to their 'go bags(tm), then!.

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  The end is so close now....

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  aren't they tiring out from saying this now?.

  a jobo pimi-lite i know has a terminal illness (no names, no pack drill), was told, 'hold on, the end is so close.

  the pimi-lite said they will need to hold on to their 'go bags(tm), then!.

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  Article: Jehovah's Witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jehovahs-witnesses-leaders-ordered-pay-17661919.

  jehovah's witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages.

  the woman was raped by a fellow jehovah's witness after going door-to-door evangelising near cardiff, glamorgan, 30 years ago, mr justice chamberlain heard.

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  Unfortunately, it's a pittance in terms of the damage caused, and compared to the vast wealth of the corporation.

  What should be shouted from the rooftops is that a self appointed, entirely partial jury of abuse enablers, failed to do anything about it at the time, and it appears 20 years elapsed before any type of justice was set in motion.

  Seems therefore they did not pass on what they knew to police, which should be a crime in itself.
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  How many here believe the WTS really has has 8.5 million followers / 8.5. million members

  by Hotpepper in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think it's closer to 5 million with all the selling of kingdom hells and branch bethel's all over the world.

  it's even hard to get a hard copy of the lastest craptower or afake mag now in new york city..

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  I think they have always exaggerated numbers.

  Any organization that proclaims their view to be the superior and only true one usually does.

  It's basically - "Hey look at us. Our numbers are growing. Folks have figured out we MUST be right!"

  At it's heart, it's a huge sign of insecurity.
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  Angel's Advocate

  by Under No Illusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sooo.... i've been perusing recent topics for a few minutes and seeing pretty much the standard jw fare these days - scandals, abuse, bad behavior, cover ups, bullying, shunning, family splits, torturous extrications from a cult, mind control etc.. i started to try and think of anything the dubs were doing that was actually beneficial to mankind in any way, and i'm struggling.

  without being facetious, wtf do they do to make anybody's life better?

  help me out here.. pros.

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  Sooo...

  I've been perusing recent topics for a few minutes and seeing pretty much the standard JW fare these days - scandals, abuse, bad behavior, cover ups, bullying, shunning, family splits, torturous extrications from a cult, mind control etc.

  I started to TRY and think of anything the Dubs were doing that was actually beneficial to mankind in any way, and I'm struggling. Without being facetious, WTF do they do to make anybody's life better? Help me out here.

  PROS

  Employment for cart manufacturers

  Employment for abuser defence lawyers

  Some stadium hire, probably big discount

  Hotel room hire

  Fast food consumption.

  Tablet sales.

  Give your Auntie Mabel somewhere to go on a Wednesday night.

  Yeah, Im reaching..

  Would be more here but all their labor costs are from slaves volunteers.

  CONS

  No charity work, unless you're a loyal JW. Even then, better if you're in a disaster overseas.

  Hand over your meagre savings please. We will use it to help pay for your indoctrination.

  No higher education, so a low paying job for you, if any.

  Child abuse

  Cover up of child abuse

  Protection of abusers

  Shunning >> Split families> costly mental and emotional health issues

  No transfusions >> needless death

  Loss of government income through tax free occupation of property.

  Trauma and Suffering from Abuse, Shunning. Aged Poverty, Bullying > Huge health costs

  Non voting, no military service (kind of lazy really)

  Gas wastage on FS

  Vast paper wastage until digital age.

  Anything positive I can think of is offset. Ok they buy a lot of bad cheap suits but no birthday cakes.

  I'm sure I've missed some but they really are a LONG way in debit in terms of being useful humans, yet believe they are special. Kind of bizarre when examined this way.

  What percentage do you think know deep down that their lives are a waste but feel trapped by some circumstance. I think that number is rising with a bullet as opposed to those who genuinely believe they are about to board a train to Paradise for being good soldiers.
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  Will God resurrect our beloved pets? What do you think?

  by Pallbearer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower doesn't hold out any hope for us ever seeing our beloved animals again.

  i find it very difficult to believe that god -- a god of love -- would refuse to resurrect an animal that we had become so attached to.

  over the years i have bonded with no less than four (4) dogs, all of which were/are like family to me.

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  You can still be with your beloved pets after death.

  Just get adjoining burial plots.

  Some worming tablets for you both might make your afterlives more pleasant.
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  Gwyneth Paltrows candles in the wind

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. entertainment

  are you put off with gwyneth paltrow`s marketing of a brand of candles she advertises as "smelling like my vagina " ?.

  she sure has gone down in my estimation as an actress and /or role model for young women if that what she was ever about in the first place .. how gross is that ?

  and the interview i saw after this with her was one big joke ?

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  She gets on my wick.
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  Richness of personality seems to work against spiritual-mindedness,

  by snugglebunny in

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  2. bible

  are you bland enough?

  just incredible imho.

  wt 63, 2/15.

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  Under No Illusion

  Makes sense.

  If everyone in the congregation is mind-numbingly boring, the speakers might seem interesting.

  Naaaaah, probably not.